How to Cite a Source with No Page Numbers
A page number exists so a reader can find the passage you used. When the source has none, the job is to give a substitute locator that does the same work, or to give none and let the reader search. APA 7 offers paragraph numbers, headings, and timestamps. MLA 9 prefers no locator over an invented one and allows par., sec., or ch. only when the source itself numbers those units. Chicago 18 uses chapter numbers, headings, and time points and warns against Kindle locations. This guide is the locator workflow; it is not a second copy of how to cite a website in APA, MLA, or Chicago.
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Quick Answer: cite a source with no page numbers
For a paraphrase, all three styles let you cite the author and date (APA, Chicago author-date) or the author alone (MLA) with no locator. For a direct quotation, APA 7 wants a substitute: a paragraph number, a section heading, or both, or a timestamp for audio and video. MLA 9 gives no locator unless the source numbers its own paragraphs or sections, and uses hours, minutes, and seconds for time-based media. Chicago 18 accepts a chapter or section number, a heading introduced with under, a paragraph number, or a time point. None of the three wants you to count pages in a PDF printout or copy a Kindle location.
Templates for a quotation when there is no page number
APA 7, paragraph:
(Author, 2023, para. 4)
APA 7, heading and paragraph:
(Author, 2023, Trust section, para. 2)
APA 7, video or podcast:
(Author, 2022, 4:32)
MLA 9, unnumbered web page:
(Author)
MLA 9, source that numbers its paragraphs:
(Author, par. 12)
MLA 9, video or podcast:
(Author 00:04:32-00:04:50)
Chicago 18 note, web page:
1. Author, "Title of Page," Site, Month Day, Year, under "Trust," https://xxxxx.
Chicago 18 note, ebook:
2. Author, Title of Book (Publisher, 2020), chap. 3, Kindle.
Chicago 18 author-date:
(Author 2022, 4:32) or (Author 2020, chap. 3)
Decide whether you need a locator at all
The locator question only arises for quotations and for close paraphrases of one passage in a long work. APA's paraphrasing page says a page or paragraph number is not required for a paraphrase, though you may add one to help a reader find the passage in a long or complex work. MLA and Chicago take the same view. So the first move is to ask which kind of use you are making; the paraphrasing versus quoting guide covers that distinction.
- If you are summarising a whole article, chapter, or video, cite author and date (or author alone in MLA) and stop. No style asks for a locator here.
- If you are quoting, check whether the source has any fixed numbering: printed page numbers in a PDF, numbered paragraphs in a legal or scholarly web text, chapter numbers in an ebook, a running time in a video.
- Prefer a fixed unit the reader will see on their own copy. A chapter number is the same on every device; a Kindle location is not.
- If the source has headings but no numbers, count paragraphs from the nearest heading and give both.
- If it has neither headings nor numbering, and it is short, cite without a locator. A reader can search a two-screen web page in seconds.
- Match the locator format to your style using the sections below.
A PDF with printed page numbers is not a no-page source
Many articles, reports, and scanned books arrive as PDFs that carry the original pagination. Cite those printed numbers, not the PDF viewer's counter. The counter starts at the cover and drifts by the length of the front matter; a reader with the print edition will land on the wrong page. The PDF citation guide covers pagination for that format. This guide is for sources that genuinely have no page: web pages, reflowable ebooks, audio, video, and slides without numbering.
APA 7: paragraph numbers, headings, and timestamps
APA 7 §8.28 and the quotations page set out the substitutes in order of preference. Use a paragraph number, counted manually if the source does not number them, written as para.; a heading or section name; a shortened heading in quotation marks followed by a paragraph count when the heading is long; a timestamp for audiovisual works; and canonically numbered parts such as chapter and verse for religious and classical works. Headings that are short are written in title case without quotation marks, followed by the word section.
Web page without numbered paragraphs
APA 7, blog post with headings
Reference:
Nakamura, T. (2023, May 9). Why remote teams drift. Harbor Labs Research. https://www.harborlabsresearch.org/blog/why-remote-teams-drift
Paraphrase, no locator:
Remote teams lose alignment gradually rather than at a single moment (Nakamura, 2023).
Quotation, paragraph counted from the top:
Drift is "a slow loss of shared assumptions" (Nakamura, 2023, para. 4).
Quotation, short heading:
(Nakamura, 2023, Trust section)
Quotation, heading plus paragraph:
(Nakamura, 2023, Trust section, para. 2)
Quotation, long heading shortened:
(Nakamura, 2023, "Why Trust Erodes" section, para. 2)
Count paragraphs from the top of the article, not from the top of the browser window, and do not count the title, byline, or image captions. When you count from a heading instead, say so by naming the heading. A reader who lands on para. 4 and finds a different fourth paragraph because the site added an introduction has been given the wrong locator; the heading-plus-paragraph form survives that kind of edit better. Format the reference itself with the website citation generator and add the locator in the in-text citation generator.
Ebook without fixed pages
A reflowable ebook repaginates every time the font size changes, so its page numbers are not citable unless the edition reproduces the print pagination. APA's list of substitutes does not include device locations, and APA Style guidance has said not to use Kindle location numbers because they vary between devices and apps. Cite the chapter and, for a quotation, the paragraph within it, or a section heading, exactly as for a web page. The ebook citation generator handles the reference entry.
APA 7, ebook with chapters and section headings
Reference:
Fairweather, E. (2020). The long quiet: Attention in an age of interruption. Meridian Press.
Quotation, chapter and paragraph:
(Fairweather, 2020, Chapter 3, para. 6)
Quotation, heading within a chapter:
(Fairweather, 2020, Chapter 3, Recovering Focus section)
Do not write:
(Fairweather, 2020, loc. 1247)
Video and podcast: timestamps
For audiovisual works APA cites the time at which the quoted material begins, in the form the player shows: 4:32 for four minutes and thirty-two seconds, 1:04:32 when the work runs past an hour. Give the start point only; APA does not ask for a range. The same rule covers TED talks, lectures recorded on video, and podcast episodes. The reference entries below follow the YouTube and podcast guides.
APA 7, YouTube video and podcast episode
Video reference:
Vasquez, R. [Ravi Vasquez]. (2022, March 3). How to read a balance sheet [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Lk2vXb9Ee
Video quotation:
Vasquez (2022) calls retained earnings "the company's memory" (4:32).
Podcast reference:
Adeyemi, F. (Host). (2021, November 18). Why meetings multiply (No. 42) [Audio podcast episode]. In The Working Hour. Harbor Labs Research. https://www.harborlabsresearch.org/podcast/42
Podcast quotation:
(Adeyemi, 2021, 12:40)
Religious and classical works
Works with canonical numbering are cited by that numbering in every edition: chapter and verse, book and line, act, scene, and line. APA's own example is (King James Bible, 1769/2017, 1 Kings 3:9); a play is cited as (Author, year, Act 2, Scene 1, lines 14–20). The numbering replaces the page and does not change when the edition does, which is the whole point of using it.
MLA 9: no locator unless the source supplies one
MLA 9's rule is the simplest of the three and the one students most often get wrong by trying too hard. If a source has no page numbers or other numbered divisions, the parenthetical contains the author's name and nothing else; if the author is named in your sentence, there is no parenthetical at all. You do not count paragraphs yourself. Abbreviations such as par., sec., ch., and line are used only when the source itself numbers those units, and when you use one it is preceded by a comma, unlike a page number. The MLA Style Center and the MLA in-text guide both illustrate the comma rule.
MLA 9, web page without numbering
Works cited:
Nakamura, Tomoko. "Why Remote Teams Drift." Harbor Labs Research, 9 May 2023, https://www.harborlabsresearch.org/blog/why-remote-teams-drift.
Quotation, author in parenthetical:
Drift is "a slow loss of shared assumptions" (Nakamura).
Quotation, author in the sentence:
Nakamura describes drift as "a slow loss of shared assumptions."
Do not write:
(Nakamura par. 4) or (Nakamura n. pag.)
MLA 9, source that numbers its own paragraphs or sections
Works cited:
Whitlock, Priya. "Consent and the Reasonable Reader." Journal of Contract Theory, vol. 8, no. 1, 2021, https://doi.org/10.1000/jct.2021.0081.
Numbered paragraph:
(Whitlock, par. 12)
Numbered section:
(Whitlock, sec. 3)
Author in the sentence:
Whitlock argues that consent is contextual (par. 12).
Ebooks in MLA
MLA says not to cite device-specific numbers such as Kindle locations because they do not correspond to anything in another reader's copy. If the ebook has numbered chapters, cite the chapter with a comma: (Fairweather, ch. 3). If it reproduces the print page numbers, cite those as pages. Otherwise, cite the author alone. Record the ebook format in the works-cited entry, before the publisher, so the reader knows why no page is given.
MLA 9, ebook
Works cited:
Fairweather, Elin. The Long Quiet: Attention in an Age of Interruption. E-book ed., Meridian Press, 2020.
Quotation with a chapter number:
(Fairweather, ch. 3)
Quotation with no fixed divisions:
(Fairweather)
Time-based media in MLA
For video and audio, MLA cites the time range of the material in hours, minutes, and seconds, 00:04:32-00:04:50, with no comma after the author's name, because the time range plays the role a page number plays. Give a range rather than a single point when you are quoting a passage. The works-cited entries follow the YouTube in MLA and podcast in MLA patterns.
MLA 9, YouTube video and podcast
Video works cited:
Vasquez, Ravi. "How to Read a Balance Sheet." YouTube, 3 Mar. 2022, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Lk2vXb9Ee.
Video quotation:
Retained earnings are "the company's memory" (Vasquez 00:04:32-00:04:50).
Podcast works cited:
Adeyemi, Femi, host. "Why Meetings Multiply." The Working Hour, episode 42, Harbor Labs Research, 18 Nov. 2021, https://www.harborlabsresearch.org/podcast/42.
Podcast quotation:
(Adeyemi 00:12:40-00:13:05)
Chicago 18: chapter, heading, paragraph, or time point
Chicago's guidance for electronic sources without fixed pages, in the section on page and location numbers for ebooks and in the online Notes and Bibliography citation guide, is to cite a chapter or section number, a heading introduced by under, or a paragraph number, and to note the format of the ebook at the end of the entry. Location numbers from a specific device or app are described as of limited use because they differ between readers' copies; a chapter or section number is preferred. The guide's own ebook example cites chap. 3 and ends the entry with Kindle.
Notes-Bibliography
Chicago 18 notes, web page with headings
Note, quotation under a heading:
1. Tomoko Nakamura, "Why Remote Teams Drift," Harbor Labs Research, May 9, 2023, under "Trust," https://www.harborlabsresearch.org/blog/why-remote-teams-drift.
Note, counted paragraph:
2. Nakamura, "Why Remote Teams Drift," para. 4.
Shortened note, no locator:
3. Nakamura, "Why Remote Teams Drift."
Bibliography:
Nakamura, Tomoko. "Why Remote Teams Drift." Harbor Labs Research, May 9, 2023. https://www.harborlabsresearch.org/blog/why-remote-teams-drift.
Chicago 18 notes, ebook and video
Ebook note:
4. Elin Fairweather, The Long Quiet: Attention in an Age of Interruption (Meridian Press, 2020), chap. 3, Kindle.
Ebook shortened note:
5. Fairweather, Long Quiet, chap. 3, under "Recovering Focus."
Ebook bibliography:
Fairweather, Elin. The Long Quiet: Attention in an Age of Interruption. Meridian Press, 2020. Kindle.
Video note:
6. Ravi Vasquez, "How to Read a Balance Sheet," March 3, 2022, YouTube video, 14:05, at 4:32, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Lk2vXb9Ee.
Video bibliography:
Vasquez, Ravi. "How to Read a Balance Sheet." March 3, 2022. YouTube video, 14:05. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Lk2vXb9Ee.
In the video note the first time, 14:05, is the running length that Chicago records as part of the description, and at 4:32 is the locator for the passage. Writing at keeps the two from being read as a range. Chicago 18 no longer requires a place of publication for post-1900 books, which is why none appears in the Fairweather entries. Notes without any locator are acceptable in Chicago when the passage is easy to find; use one whenever the source is long enough that a search would be slow. The Chicago footnote generator produces the note and bibliography pair; add the locator before the URL.
Author-Date
Author-date puts the same locators after the year, separated by a comma, exactly where a page number would go. The Author-Date citation guide moves the year to follow the author in the reference list and otherwise keeps the entry the same.
Chicago 18 author-date
Reference list, web page:
Nakamura, Tomoko. 2023. "Why Remote Teams Drift." Harbor Labs Research, May 9, 2023. https://www.harborlabsresearch.org/blog/why-remote-teams-drift.
In-text, heading:
(Nakamura 2023, under "Trust")
In-text, paragraph:
(Nakamura 2023, para. 4)
Reference list, ebook:
Fairweather, Elin. 2020. The Long Quiet: Attention in an Age of Interruption. Meridian Press. Kindle.
In-text, chapter:
(Fairweather 2020, chap. 3)
In-text, video time point:
(Vasquez 2022, 4:32)
Three styles side by side
APA 7
Web page quotation:
(Nakamura, 2023, para. 4) or (Nakamura, 2023, Trust section, para. 2)
Ebook quotation:
(Fairweather, 2020, Chapter 3, para. 6)
Video quotation:
(Vasquez, 2022, 4:32)
Paraphrase:
(Nakamura, 2023)
MLA 9
Web page quotation:
(Nakamura), or (Whitlock, par. 12) only if the source numbers paragraphs
Ebook quotation:
(Fairweather, ch. 3) if chapters are numbered; else (Fairweather)
Video quotation:
(Vasquez 00:04:32-00:04:50)
Paraphrase:
(Nakamura)
Chicago 18
Web page quotation:
under "Trust" or para. 4, in the note or after the year
Ebook quotation:
chap. 3, with Kindle at the end of the entry
Video quotation:
at 4:32 in a note; (Vasquez 2022, 4:32) in author-date
Paraphrase:
Note or (Nakamura 2023) with no locator
| Locator | APA 7 | MLA 9 | Chicago 18 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Paragraph you counted yourself | Yes: para. 4 | No | Yes: para. 4 |
| Paragraph the source numbers | Yes: para. 12 | Yes, with a comma: (Author, par. 12) | Yes: para. 12 |
| Section heading | Yes: Trust section; long headings shortened in quotation marks | Only if the source numbers sections: (Author, sec. 3) | Yes: under "Trust" |
| Chapter number | Yes: Chapter 3 | Yes, if numbered: (Author, ch. 3) | Yes: chap. 3 |
| Kindle or app location | No | No | Discouraged; cite chapter or section |
| Timestamp | Start point: 4:32 | Range in hh:mm:ss: 00:04:32-00:04:50 | Time point: at 4:32 or (Author 2022, 4:32) |
| No locator for a quotation | Avoid; give a substitute | Standard when nothing is numbered | Acceptable when the passage is easy to find |
| No locator for a paraphrase | Fine | Fine | Fine |
A short checklist
Before you cite without a page number
- I checked whether the PDF, ebook, or transcript carries the original print pagination; if it does, I cited those pages.
- I confirmed this is a quotation or a close paraphrase that needs a locator; a whole-work summary does not.
- APA: I gave para., a heading, heading plus para., or a timestamp, and I did not use a Kindle location.
- MLA: I gave no locator unless the source numbers its own paragraphs, sections, or chapters, and I used a comma before par., sec., or ch.
- Chicago: I gave chap., under "Heading," para., or a time point, and I noted Kindle or another format at the end of an ebook entry.
- Timestamps match the style: start point in APA and Chicago, hh:mm:ss range in MLA.
- I counted paragraphs from the top of the article or from the heading I named, not from the top of the screen.
Common mistakes
- Citing the PDF viewer's page counter instead of the printed page number.
- Writing n. pag. or n.p. in MLA 9. Those abbreviations were dropped in MLA 8; leave the locator out instead.
- Counting paragraphs in MLA. MLA uses par. only when the source numbers them.
- Omitting the comma before par., sec., or ch. in MLA, or adding one before a page number.
- Citing a Kindle location in any of the three styles.
- Giving a timestamp range in APA, or a single point in MLA; APA wants the start, MLA wants the range in hh:mm:ss.
- Writing
(Nakamura, 2023, para. 4)in Chicago author-date; Chicago has no comma between author and year:(Nakamura 2023, para. 4). - Inventing a page number from a printout of a web page. The number is meaningless to anyone else.
- Leaving off the ebook format in Chicago or MLA when there is no page number, so the reader cannot tell why.
Build the reference, then add the locator
The reference or works-cited entry does not change when the page number is missing; the locator lives in the in-text citation or note. Generate the entry for the web page, ebook, video, or podcast, then use the in-text tool to add para., a heading, a chapter, or a timestamp in the right format.
Frequently asked questions
- How do I cite a quote from a website with no page numbers in APA?
- Give a paragraph number counted from the top of the article, written as para. 4, or a section heading followed by the word section, or both: (Nakamura, 2023, Trust section, para. 2). Shorten a long heading in quotation marks. For a paraphrase, the author and year alone are enough.
- Do I need a page number for a paraphrase?
- No. APA 7, MLA 9, and Chicago 18 all allow a paraphrase to be cited by author and date, or author alone in MLA, without a locator. Add one when the work is long and a reader would struggle to find the passage, but it is a courtesy rather than a requirement.
- What does MLA do when there are no page numbers?
- It leaves the locator out. The parenthetical contains the author's name only, and if the author is named in your sentence there is no parenthetical at all. Use par., sec., or ch. only when the source numbers those units itself, and put a comma after the author's name before them. Do not write n. pag.
- Can I cite a Kindle location number?
- No. APA does not list device locations among its substitutes and has said not to use them; MLA says not to cite device-specific numbers; Chicago describes them as of limited use and prefers a chapter or section number. Cite the chapter, a heading, or a paragraph within a chapter instead, and note the ebook format in the entry where the style asks for it.
- How do I cite a timestamp from a video or podcast?
- In APA, give the time the quoted material begins, in the form the player shows: (Vasquez, 2022, 4:32). In MLA, give the range in hours, minutes, and seconds with no comma after the author: (Vasquez 00:04:32-00:04:50). In Chicago, give the time point after the running length in a note, at 4:32, or after the year in author-date: (Vasquez 2022, 4:32).
- How do I count paragraphs for para. in APA?
- Start at the first paragraph of the article body and count each block of text; skip the title, byline, headings, captions, and pull quotes. If the article has headings, name the nearest heading and count from it instead, because that locator survives edits to the top of the page. Chicago uses the same counting method.
- What is the Chicago format for a heading as a locator?
- Introduce the heading with under and put it in quotation marks: under "Trust" in a note, or (Nakamura 2023, under "Trust") in author-date. A chapter number is written chap. 3 and a paragraph number para. 4. Chicago also lets you omit the locator when the passage is easy to find.
- The PDF I read has page numbers printed on it. Do I still use these rules?
- No. Printed pagination is a real page number, so cite it in the ordinary way for your style. Use the page numbers on the document itself, not the PDF viewer's counter, which starts at the cover and is off by the length of the front matter.
Related guides and official manuals
- How to Cite a Website in APA Format
- How to Cite Websites in MLA Format
- How to Cite Websites and Blog Posts in Chicago Style
- How to Cite PDF Documents
- How to Cite a YouTube Video in APA
- How to Cite a Podcast in APA
- Paraphrasing vs. Quoting
- How to Cite a Source with No Date
- APA in-text citations
- MLA in-text citations
- Chicago in-text citations and notes
- APA Style: quotations, including material without page numbers
- APA Style: paraphrasing
- MLA Style Center
- Chicago Notes-Bibliography citation guide
- Chicago Author-Date citation guide